1. Joseph Hutchison
    Joseph Hutchison January 24, 2011 at 8:53 pm .

    I&#39;ve tried everything, Awyn. Time is the only healer for this one, though. All I can do is tamp down the symptoms. Today is much better, though!<br /><br />I don&#39;t know that &quot;what poetry is or isn&#39;t&quot; matters at all. It&#39;s like a parlor game—most like &quot;Telephone,&quot; I guess. For me what matters is that the words summon up the Imagination and satisfy it. One can

  2. awyn
    awyn January 24, 2011 at 7:35 pm .

    Am with Ed here in disagreeing that the reader should be held responsible for not understanding a poem, or need absolution for incomprehension. The meaning of the quote from Bernstein was not so clear to me, but what I heard him as saying (based on the words he used and the title of his book) was: Look Reader, stop being put off by poems that seem difficult or ungraspable or strange. It&#39;s

  3. Anonymous
    Anonymous January 24, 2011 at 5:15 pm .

    AHHHH MIMI<br /><br />as Maurice had it:<br /><br />&quot;I remember her well&quot;<br /><br />was not she that Virgin Prostitute that sculptors like<br />Donottelluh and Michalanellelo mad huge marble statues of<br />and put in ….. temples and museums and charged big bucks to watch her slide up and down on that golden pole ?<br /><br />is this MIMI yet available?<br /><br /><br />K.

  4. Joseph Hutchison
    Joseph Hutchison January 24, 2011 at 4:58 pm .

    I remember Mimesis! We called her Mimi. A pole dancer at Whiskey Bill&#39;s, as I remember. Or maybe she was just Polish. Anyway, she had survived a long-rather-sweet relationship with Erich Auerbach and missed him pretty bad, far as I could tell. She&#39;s probably in Eternity too, by now….

  5. Anonymous
    Anonymous January 24, 2011 at 4:39 pm .

    so<br /><br />you got &quot;good&quot; syrup, eh?<br /> from a Real Doctor?<br /><br />hope that dope don&#39;t deconstruct your last<br />vestiges of any trace of<br /><br /><br />I tried DERRIDA but he swamped me with:<br /><br />&quot;Now, mimesis, all through the history of its interpretation, is always commanded by the process of truth.&quot;<br /><br />&amp;<br />this Mimisis FLOORED

  6. Joseph Hutchison
    Joseph Hutchison January 24, 2011 at 4:34 pm .

    And Lyle—clarity can be difficult, yes? But in Bernstein&#39;s formulation, difficult equals unclear. He valorizes static—that tangle of frequencies in a single channel. But I hold with old Bobby Frost: Poetry &quot;ends in a clarification <br />of life–not necessarily a great clarification, such as sects and cults are founded on, but in a momentary stay against confusion.&quot; Yet there is

  7. Joseph Hutchison
    Joseph Hutchison January 24, 2011 at 4:25 pm .

    Oh, Ed—my syrup&#39;s not over-the-counter, so the codeine&#39;s there, though maybe only in &quot;trace&quot; amounts (in deference to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trace_(deconstruction)&quot; rel="nofollow">Dr. Derrida</a>).

  8. Ed Baker
    Ed Baker January 24, 2011 at 3:37 pm .

    the poem ONLY does what the words do..<br /><br />the reader has the multiplicity of meanings..<br /><br />anyway<br /><br />NINETY FIVE DOLLARS?!! for a 288 pps BOOK<br /><br />that is from/out of such-much clevernesses?<br /><br />I am uh tellin uhaul<br /><br />I ain&#39;t responsible for the wreader&#39;s intelligence OR understaning<br /><br />seems to me too many of &quot;these Poets&quot;

  9. Short Poems
    Short Poems January 24, 2011 at 8:27 am .

    &quot;For that to happen, the poem has to contain, some clear writing somewhere&quot;. 🙂

  10. Lyle Daggett
    Lyle Daggett January 24, 2011 at 4:27 am .

    It occurs to me that probably any poem, if it&#39;s doing the kinds of things poems generally do (or that poets generally aspire to do with them), will have multiple &quot;meanings,&quot; though I&#39;m not sure if &quot;meaning,&quot; as such, is the point.<br /><br />Obviously, having &quot;overlapping meanings&quot; doesn&#39;t necessarily mean that a poem will be free of difficulty, or that

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