Mainstreams in Retrospect


  1. Gary B. Fitzgerald
    Gary B. Fitzgerald June 16, 2011 at 4:00 am .

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  2. vazambam
    vazambam June 9, 2011 at 2:35 pm .

    Even if you wanted to, &quot;you could not step twice into the same stream (sic); for other waters are ever flowing on to you&quot;<br />:)!

  3. Andrew Shields
    Andrew Shields June 9, 2011 at 6:45 am .

    I like your development of the stream metaphor here.<br /><br />(And I&#39;m delighted that my comments were so thought-provoking!)

  4. Conrad DiDiodato
    Conrad DiDiodato June 8, 2011 at 11:27 pm .

    &quot;It&#39;s one reason Ed Baker, for example (yes, you, Ed), is so refreshing: he sounds like nobody else. The post-avant project seems to be to sound like anybody else. What an impoverishment!&quot;<br /><br />Well said, Joseph.

  5. Joseph Hutchison
    Joseph Hutchison June 8, 2011 at 11:17 pm .

    I&#39;m not sure about a &quot;globalized homogeneous state.&quot; I&#39;d have to read a dozen languages to know if there is one; translations, being brought over into the dominant English idiom(s), give a globalized impression—much distinctiveness squeezed out of them. I have to assume (blind optimism?) that there is a distinctiveness I can&#39;t appreciate there. But to see English language

  6. Conrad DiDiodato
    Conrad DiDiodato June 8, 2011 at 10:17 pm .

    Joseph,<br /><br />you seem to be saying that, in a sort of literary darwinism, mainstream signifies the winners of a long-ago battle for prestige. The metaphor of &quot;swirls, eddies, rapids and backwashes&quot; suggests an original chaos out of which (even if it&#39;s an illusion) an &quot;official verse culture&quot; has arisen. And that the winners today (such as Silliman, e.g.) have become

  7. Anonymous
    Anonymous June 8, 2011 at 5:52 pm .

    I like Conrad&#39;s term:<br /> &quot;radical sameness&quot;<br /><br />and<br /><br />as far as what people thing (about my stuff) say<br />50 years after I&#39;me dead ?<br /><br />then as now .. Icouldgiveashit !<br /><br />as I am sure Ashbery would agree …<br /><br />He, also is not responsible for anyboddhi&#39;s intelligence or understanding….<br /><br />

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