Poetry Makes Something Happen

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  1. Andrew Shields
    Andrew Shields April 13, 2012 at 5:46 pm .

    No translation can efface the self-centredness of Grass's poem. Shabtai's poems are not about himself and his own problems; even "War" is not about himself.

  2. Joseph Hutchison
    Joseph Hutchison April 13, 2012 at 2:42 pm .

    I agree! Although Shabtai's power, I'm sure, owes a lot to Peter Cole, his excellent translator. Maybe Grass's poem will attract a superior translator one day soon–though I imagine his poem wiLl still suffer by comparison.

  3. Andrew Shields
    Andrew Shields April 13, 2012 at 11:42 am .

    Those Shabtai poems put Grass to shame.

  4. Joseph Hutchison
    Joseph Hutchison April 12, 2012 at 3:23 pm .

    For what it's worth, this is an open forum. The only time I've ever blocked posts is when they contain a link to some of Web's ubiquitous smarm….

  5. DaleJacobson
    DaleJacobson April 11, 2012 at 11:12 pm .

    Thanks, Joe, very much. I was uncomfortable posting my link on your blog but pleased that you do not mind! Great remarks regarding the silence of Poetry Foundation, on your more recent post…

  6. Joseph Hutchison
    Joseph Hutchison April 11, 2012 at 8:18 pm .

    Dale, I appreciate your comments, including the one you removed. I wish you hadn&#39;t! The alternate reading of Auden is well worth noting. So I hope you don&#39;t mind my pasting the link here again:<br />http://dalejacobsonpoet.blogspot.com/p/argument-for-politics-in-poetry.html<br /><br />Cheers!

  7. DaleJacobson
    DaleJacobson April 11, 2012 at 4:29 pm .

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  8. DaleJacobson
    DaleJacobson April 11, 2012 at 4:05 am .

    Thanks for your own courage in posting this, Joseph. Sad that you need to clarify that opposing Israel&#39;s brutality does not mean support for fundamentalism of Iran, but such is the state of current political discourse, which is dismal. (Maybe it always has been.) I think that Grass has done the world a great turn because the misery Israel has inflicted has long received a pass in much of

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